Why does PM require ADMIN privilege?
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:08 am
The user has to be ADMIN to user PM from application portal. That is unreasonable. Why can't user use PM like Architect from windows start menu? 

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Thanks for reply. TBH, I don't feel like this PM. For example, when I try to delete a cube in PM once, it never ends. I hate that it keeps me waiting and can do nothing about it! At last, I still use perspective to delete that cube.declanr wrote:As I understand it (and I stand to be corrected by any IBMers in the midst) that PM is intended just for modelling (hence the name) whereas for data viewing & input etc the more desired interface would be Cognos Insight, Applications (contributor) or TM1 Web.
Despite the fact that it does seem that Perspectives and Architect and now somewhat being ignored by IBM in terms of product development, they are still in there for you to give to users but even then in most businesses I come across; due to restrictions around the fact they almost always work over a WAN; I tend to just recommend that Admins/Devs use perspectives & architect while everyone else works through a TM1 Web Interface. That is just my personal preference and it all depends on the clients but yeah... long story short I think I was trying to say that its all in the name Performance Modeller.
EDIT - I should point out that I hadn't even realised you needed to be an Admin to physically open it but had always assumed it would require a modeller licence to contractually be allowed to use it.
Where in the world did you get the idea that PM is a replacement for Perspectives? Performance modeller is for building models, something that users would normally never do, only administrators. I'm sure that's why you have to be an admin to open it. PM is a replacement for the "model building" tasks that can be done in Architect or Perspectives, nothing else.macsir wrote:Yes, it is very odd that general user can't open PM from the portal. What is IBM thinking, for god's sake! If PM is a replacement for perspective, it should allow!!!
Hi, tomok. No one tells me like that. It is my own thought based on observation.tomok wrote:Where in the world did you get the idea that PM is a replacement for Perspectives? Performance modeller is for building models, something that users would normally never do, only administrators. I'm sure that's why you have to be an admin to open it. PM is a replacement for the "model building" tasks that can be done in Architect or Perspectives, nothing else.macsir wrote:Yes, it is very odd that general user can't open PM from the portal. What is IBM thinking, for god's sake! If PM is a replacement for perspective, it should allow!!!
Then what is the advantage to use PM for model building? Don't tell me you can remove or add dimension dynamically or similar things like that in that tool. These are small improvements rather than advantages.PM is a replacement for the "model building" tasks that can be done in Architect or Perspectives, nothing else.
The advantages (or disadvantages) of using PM to build models are open to discussion and interpretation.macsir wrote:Then what is the advantage to use PM for model building? Don't tell me you can remove or add dimension dynamically or similar things like that in that tool. These are small improvements rather than advantages.
Yes, I got confused with IBM's product strategy. What is the position for each of them, PM, Cognos Insight? PM is for admin model developer? CI is for general user without TM1 background to play with cube data?lotsaram wrote: The advantages (or disadvantages) of using PM to build models are open to discussion and interpretation.![]()
At this point my own view is that it's not quite ready for model building and if you know what you're doing then it is better to build with architect/perspectives as in the past. Someone from IBM might disagree, but probably not someone who really knows how to build a TM1 model. It is definitely not a replacement for perspectives, it is a developer and admin only tool.
What might be considered an alternate or if pushing it a replacement for perspectives is Cognos Insight and this does have avery PM similar interface when it comes to rule and process creation and editing. Maybe that is where you got confused.
They're not keeping the fact a secret, though they don't go into the whys and wherefores of which tool is intended for what; Performance Muddler manual, page 2:macsir wrote:Hi, tomok. No one tells me like that. It is my own thought based on observation.tomok wrote:Where in the world did you get the idea that PM is a replacement for Perspectives? Performance modeller is for building models, something that users would normally never do, only administrators. I'm sure that's why you have to be an admin to open it. PM is a replacement for the "model building" tasks that can be done in Architect or Perspectives, nothing else.macsir wrote:Yes, it is very odd that general user can't open PM from the portal. What is IBM thinking, for god's sake! If PM is a replacement for perspective, it should allow!!!![]()
PM Manual wrote:Starting Cognos TM1 Performance Modeler
You can create and manage IBM Cognos TM1 Applications in IBM Cognos TM1 Performance Modeler.
Before you begin To create and manage Cognos TM1 Applications, you must be a member of the ADMIN group on the TM1 server.
Both Tomok and yourself have sadly been misled by the IBM marketing department. For you see, it was never the intention that Performance Muddler be used for TM1 model building.macsir wrote:Then what is the advantage to use PM for model building? Don't tell me you can remove or add dimension dynamically or similar things like that in that tool. These are small improvements rather than advantages.Tomok wrote:PM is a replacement for the "model building" tasks that can be done in Architect or Perspectives, nothing else.
Don't worry, it's really just an outpouring that I banged out in < 5 minutes when the muses of parody, satire and no small amount of sarcasm descended with a thud onto my shoulder. (As they have a habit of doing whenever I click on the accursed link that leads to Performance Muddler...)macsir wrote:long reply I ever had. I will check it later, dude.