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firefox 12 & TM1 9.5.2 / 10.1

Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 3:51 pm
by Jeroen Eynikel
Hi,

I was wondering whether anyone has any experience with firefox 12 in combination with TM1 9.5.2 / 10.1 both web & contributor.

We are currently using firefox 12 in combination with web/contributor version 9.5.1 without issues and are considering upgrading to TM1 version 9.5.2 or 10.1 but the support matrix is not really helpfull when it comes to knowing whether any recent firefox version is compatible :)

Thanks for any input,

Jeroen

Re: firefox 12 & TM1 9.5.2 / 10.1

Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 7:19 pm
by Alan Kirk
Jeroen Eynikel wrote: I was wondering whether anyone has any experience with firefox 12 in combination with TM1 9.5.2 / 10.1 both web & contributor.

We are currently using firefox 12 in combination with web/contributor version 9.5.1 without issues and are considering upgrading to TM1 version 9.5.2 or 10.1 but the support matrix is not really helpfull when it comes to knowing whether any recent firefox version is compatible :)
Can't really blame Iboglix for that one; it's down to Firefox's stupid "If this is Thursday, it must be time for a new release" schedule combined with the breathtaking arrogance of some of the development team of boldly declaring that "we've broken compatibility in the past and we'll happily do it in the future!"

These two combined mean that it's effectively impossible for anyone to fully test compatibility with the latest version of Firefox when "the latest version" will only be so for a few weeks, leaving you with the choice of an older, unsupported version or running the risk of using a current version which is not fully tested.

Don't get me wrong, I use Firefox for my personal browsing; IE has become clunky and overloaded with pop-up dialogs that you can't permanently kill, content which is copied from Chrome often renders in abnormal ways, although I do have Safari to check site compatibility for the most part Apple can go sod itself, and that leaves Firefox. But in a corporate environment IMHO the Firefox development team's policy has taken the browser out into the woods and shot it in the head; I just don't think it can be relied on unless you're prepared to be doing a full battery of tests every few weeks, which no business has the resources to do.

For what it's worth I have run 10.1 Applications under Firefox 12 on my test machine and aside from one screwy "download" dialog when it launches I haven't found anything that doesn't work... but you should absolutely not take that as an affirmation that everything will in fact work under it.

Re: firefox 12 & TM1 9.5.2 / 10.1

Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 2:34 am
by rmackenzie
Jeroen Eynikel wrote:I was wondering whether anyone has any experience with firefox 12 in combination with TM1 9.5.2 / 10.1 both web & contributor.
I can't say whether it was Firefox 12 or not, but I have noticed that Firefox doesn't play nicely with the way action buttons are placed on the websheet. If you line them up nicely for IE, then they will appear differently in Firefox. Bit annoying...

Re: firefox 12 & TM1 9.5.2 / 10.1

Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 7:35 am
by lotsaram
In general: everything that Alan said. With firefox and chrome versions changing every other week there's no way it's possible to continually retest all productive applications and verify that no compatibility has been broken.
rmackenzie wrote:I can't say whether it was Firefox 12 or not, but I have noticed that Firefox doesn't play nicely with the way action buttons are placed on the websheet. If you line them up nicely for IE, then they will appear differently in Firefox. Bit annoying...
.... or some fonts, or merged cells, or worksheet gridlines in some cases. Something similar to the bad or offset object alignment can also happen in IE where the object positioning and alignment in web is as per the spreadsheet display at zoom=100%. If the spreadsheet was designed with a different zoom setting then it is going to look all wonky on the web (or actually it is going to look like it looks in 100% zoom). Tip for developing websheet applications, always use 100% zoom in Excel.

Re: firefox 12 & TM1 9.5.2 / 10.1

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 11:11 am
by Jeroen Eynikel
Thanks for the input so far.

And to make things clear. I am not blaming IBM in any way for this. I am just looking for people with RL experience in this and trying to find out whether there are any major *known* issues which would definitely deter me from making the upgrade.

So in the absence of any major *known* issues I am thinking it *probably* will work (touches wood and keeps fingers crossed)

Jeroen