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UNDO!!!!
and
UNDO SPREAD!!!!!

Excuse me for shouting!

Palo - free open source software - now has an undo and an undo spread feature. It's taken them 9 months to do this (since they first promised it) but it's there now.

Who is setting the standard here now I wonder?

Does anyone know what Palo/Jedox's revenue model is? Do they make enough from the consulting to justify the open source model?

Congratulations to the team (and John - someone finally listed to you!).

Martin

I've got no inside knowledge, but their obvious revenue sources are support, consulting and ancillary products

Support is at Eu 3k a year (compared to a whopping percentage of a large licence fee for some other products we know and love)
They also sell things like Worksheet Server for a few K each and provide install and build capability.
Presumably it's a volume based model.

I guess that a buy out is an obvious scenario at some point, and then the question of whether Palo continues to be free comes into question I guess.

To be frank, unless your model is huge this now has to be worth a look.

I'm just building a forecasting model at the moment for a demo and it's sweet.

The one thing I miss (and I NEVER thought I'd live to say this) is Turbo Integrator

Hi Martin,

PALO is a business driver for Jedox. Based on this product they sell maintenance contracts (support on the PALO server), consultancy and complementary software, like Supervision Server and Worksheet Server. They allso will release in December (according to the roadmap) a 'Data Center Edition' of PALO, which will be a commercial product. The current (free) PALO is single-threaded, the DCE will be multi-threaded.
The Supervision Server is f.i. needed for full transaction logging, drill-through using their ETL server and setting triggers on cells with which you can trigger actions like data validation on input. You define the triggers per cube area. The ETL server is their 'TI'. I haven't done much with it so I can't tell a lot about it - I know it uses XML definitions for their ETL - there is currently no interface for editing this other than a XML editor.
Worksheet Server used to be their main-product and is a PHP based Excel to Web publishing server.

Michel

John Hobson wrote:The one thing I miss (and I NEVER thought I'd live to say this) is Turbo Integrator

Next to the Jedox ETL Server (which currently lacks an user-friendly interface) there is also the freeware Cubeware IMP:Palo tool, which is a limited (no scheduling, PALO-only and max. 50.000 records per process) version of the Cubeware Importer. It doesn't have the same speed as TI and I had to get used to the GUI, which is completely different than the TI interface, but I now quite like the interface and I think it's worth having a look at.

Michel

I must admit I share the same level of enthusiasm as John here and just really bemused (& frustrated) that Cognos has not built this into TM1...yet.

I have even gave up asking at Applix\Cognos user days as all I ever got was that we are 'working on it' ...
... maybe I should have pointed out to him that a certain Philip Bichard wrote a product that spreads and undo spreads TM1 data in 1998!!!

hmmmm...I might just chase Mr Corbett up on this now...just to hear him say...'we are working on it'

Ken Vuong

hmmmm...I might just chase Mr Corbett up on this now...just to hear him say...'we are working on it'

I heard it is in the infamous 9.4

Enough of your 9.4 play!!

Did you hear, world peace is part of 9.4.

So it's either the dogs dangly bits or just dangly bits?

jim wood wrote:So it's either the dogs dangly bits or just dangly bits?

I doubt that'll get through the UK-US Google translator!

Martin Ryan wrote:

jim wood wrote:So it's either the dogs dangly bits or just dangly bits?

I doubt that'll get through the UK-US Google translator!

No kidding all it came up with was WTF

Eric wrote:Did you hear, world peace is part of 9.4.

9.4 is starting to sound like the Iboglix version of Windows Vista.

"Promise the Earth. Deliver a chunk of dirt. Really barren, sandy dirt that you can't grow anything of value in."

Eric wrote:

Martin Ryan wrote:

jim wood wrote:So it's either the dogs dangly bits or just dangly bits?

I doubt that'll get through the UK-US Google translator!

No kidding all it came up with was WTF

It's worse..... You will need to access the Lancastrian version of google called eybygoogleck.com (Now that definately won't translate!!!!)

Alan Kirk wrote:

Eric wrote:Did you hear, world peace is part of 9.4.

9.4 is starting to sound like the Iboglix version of Windows Vista.

"Promise the Earth. Deliver a chunk of dirt. Really barren, sandy dirt that you can't grow anything of value in."

Please no!!!!! Vitsa isn't that good. "Let's take Bill's half decent windows concept and shovle s@*t on it until even pigs won't touch it. After all Bill has gone now!! But hey, people will still buy it as it is made by microsoft and what else they going to use, Linux???" You never know, Iboglix might make 9.4 available on Apple or Linux. No there would be a step in the right direction.

jim wood wrote:It's worse..... You will need to access the Lancastrian version of google called eybygoogleck.com (Now that definately won't translate!!!!)

I thought that you Liverpudlians declared independence from Lancashire a few dozen years ago. Or is it just that there's no suitable adjectival form of "Merseyside"? Or is it kinda like it is with Canberra? (Sure, the ACT is theoretically separate from NSW, but hey, it LOOKS like NSW, it FEELS like NSW[1]... sorry RJ, but you know it's true.) As a consequence Liverpool's still "Lancastrian".

[1] Except that as soon as you pass the sign that says "Australian Capital Territory" the speed limit on the Federal Highway drops from 110 to 100 (but equally the number of highway patrol cars drops to 0), and some 4 star hotels in Canberra have advertisements for, ahem, ladies of the night in their guest directories which is something that I haven't encountered in NSW proper. Aside from that, it's exactly like NSW.

Or is it just that there's no suitable adjectival form of "Merseyside"

Alan - the word you are looking for is (in the polite form) "scouser".

A scouser is a wannabe Lancastrian (and at the more aspirational end of the scale a wannabe Mancuniuan)