IBM TM1 10.2 Web IIS Virtual Directory missing

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IBM TM1 10.2 Web IIS Virtual Directory missing

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Hi There,

We've been using IBM TM1 10.2 and IBM Cognos BI 10.2.1 on running Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1Enterprise Edition x64. Well , both on the same machine.
Once I've installed successfully IBM Cognos BI 10.2.1 I've installed all those components of IBM TM1 10.2 and all those prerequisites also specifically which id required for TM1Web.
consequently tm1web and tm1webex directories doesn't exist under TM1 installations directory. First , I've tried to install IBM TM1 10.2 once again. no result. How can I fix that? I think this sounds like a bug.

BTW , I haven't installed IBM Cognos TM1 10.2.0.0.1 (Interim Fix 1) .

Thanks in advance for your all pointers.

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Re: IBM TM1 10.2 Web IIS Virtual Directory missing

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I don't have 10.2 installed at the moment as I reverted back to 10.1.1 for my day to day usage but you are aware that TM1 Web has been completely rewritten for 10.2?

The TM1Webex folder was pretty much for TM1 to store the excel sheets it converted for use in TM1 Web, now in 10.2 the rendering is completely java based, hence you not needing to have an Excel Service on your server. There is still a TM1Web folder in 10.2 but from memory I believe it is in a folder called something like webapps? I also recall there being a subdirectory in there which contains the excel sheets... you do still create websheets in excel... they are just converted in a completely different way for display in the web.

So I stand to be corrected if these folders should still exist but I don't think this is a bug.
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Re: IBM TM1 10.2 Web IIS Virtual Directory missing

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I don't have 10.2 installed at the moment as I reverted back to 10.1.1 for my day to day usage but you are aware that TM1 Web has been completely rewritten for 10.2?

The TM1Webex folder was pretty much for TM1 to store the excel sheets it converted for use in TM1 Web, now in 10.2 the rendering is completely java based, hence you not needing to have an Excel Service on your server. There is still a TM1Web folder in 10.2 but from memory I believe it is in a folder called something like webapps? I also recall there being a subdirectory in there which contains the excel sheets... you do still create websheets in excel... they are just converted in a completely different way for display in the web.

So I stand to be corrected if these folders should still exist but I don't think this is a bug.
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Re: IBM TM1 10.2 Web IIS Virtual Directory missing

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declanr wrote: The TM1Webex folder was pretty much for TM1 to store the excel sheets it converted for use in TM1 Web, now in 10.2 the rendering is completely java based, hence you not needing to have an Excel Service on your server. There is still a TM1Web folder in 10.2 but from memory I believe it is in a folder called something like webapps? I also recall there being a subdirectory in there which contains the excel sheets... you do still create websheets in excel... they are just converted in a completely different way for display in the web.

So I stand to be corrected if these folders should still exist but I don't think this is a bug.
I don't have a 10.2 Web instance running yet but the Web FAQ has this to say:
Previously I was told to periodically clean out the tm1webex folder, do I still need to do this?

Previously, under the \tm1webex folder there was an ExcelSheet and a UserTempDir directory that needed to be cleaned out periodically. There is no UserTempDir folder anymore. Although an ExcelSheet folder still exists in this location in TM1Web 10.2, the OpenXML format of the Excel documents is now read directly. This change means less information needs to be stored in this folder compared to the amount of information that was stored here in previous versions. Now this folder contains much smaller formatting information files and static images per report. Therefore this folder should not need to be cleaned regularly anymore. It can be deleted and it will then get recreated as needed.
To MaxCoder, I don't think I'd worry about the directory structure being different; that's only to be expected. The only question is whether the thing works.
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Re: IBM TM1 10.2 Web IIS Virtual Directory missing

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FYI TM1 Web for 10.2 no longer uses IIS and .Net. It is an all java based solution running on Apache Tomcat. Hence the reason why you don't see any folders in IIS. They aren't being setup. The new TM1 Web converts .xlsx to openXML format which is also why support for .xls is going away.

There should still be a folder where the web sheet templates are stored but I can't remember what the name is offhand.
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PlanningDev wrote:FYI TM1 Web for 10.2 no longer uses IIS and .Net. It is an all java based solution running on Apache Tomcat. Hence the reason why you don't see any folders in IIS. They aren't being setup. The new TM1 Web converts .xlsx to openXML format which is also why support for .xls is going away.

There should still be a folder where the web sheet templates are stored but I can't remember what the name is offhand.
First of all ,thanks for your answers. As you said It is an all java based solution running on Apache Tomcat. How can I access IBM TM1 web page? Because it doesn't work http://localhost/tm1web URL.

Thanks again,
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maxcoder wrote:
PlanningDev wrote:FYI TM1 Web for 10.2 no longer uses IIS and .Net. It is an all java based solution running on Apache Tomcat. Hence the reason why you don't see any folders in IIS. They aren't being setup. The new TM1 Web converts .xlsx to openXML format which is also why support for .xls is going away.

There should still be a folder where the web sheet templates are stored but I can't remember what the name is offhand.
First of all ,thanks for your answers. As you said It is an all java based solution running on Apache Tomcat. How can I access IBM TM1 web page? Because it doesn't work http://localhost/tm1web URL.

Thanks again,

The 10.2 Web FAQ posted earlier eludes to this as do the release notes "what is new" section. It's worth reading through the documentation when you install a new version.

server:port/tm1web/ e.g. localhost:9510/tm1web/
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Re: IBM TM1 10.2 Web IIS Virtual Directory missing

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The one thing I haven't looked into is if you can proxy through IIS so users won't have to remember the exact address with port included. Currently the poor mans way of doing it is to setup a virtual directory on a webserver somewhere and have it simply redirect to the TM1 address.
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Re: IBM TM1 10.2 Web IIS Virtual Directory missing

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Thanks for your all answers.

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Re: IBM TM1 10.2 Web IIS Virtual Directory missing

Post by lotsaram »

This thread seems OK to hijack as this is a related topic.

For all the TM1 hackers out there has anyone tried to connect a 10.1 or 9.5 IIS tm1 web server to a 10.2 application server? Does it work? Or can it be made to work?

10.2 web server seems solid enough for Tm1 applications (except for non-anglo number formatting and data spreading) but it is just too far off and unpredictable for websheet formatting and action button placement, especially when it comes to active forms.
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Re: IBM TM1 10.2 Web IIS Virtual Directory missing

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There is a kb that states you can use 10.1.1 web with 10.2 server. Let me see if I can find it again
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Re: IBM TM1 10.2 Web IIS Virtual Directory missing

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PlanningDev - were you able to find the KB article detailing how Web 10.1.1 can be used with 10.2 server?

IN the FAQ documentation IBM provided highlighting the differences between 10.1.1. and 10.2 it states this:

How can I compare my previous version of TM1Web to the 10.2 TM1Web version?

If you would like to be able to compare between an older and newer version of TM1Web, do not uninstall the current version of TM1Web that you are running. You will be able to still connect from the prior version to the new 10.2 TM1 Server which allows you to compare between versions.


The link to this documentation does not appear to work anymore on the IBM website:

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.w ... RXT&mync=E
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Re: IBM TM1 10.2 Web IIS Virtual Directory missing

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That link you have is still good. There wasn't a KB that described how more so just that you could run both versions. Its really as simple as pointing TM1 Web 10.1.1 at an admin host that has a 10.2 server.
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