Rule Editor converting "£" to "?"

[garry cook]

Hey all, bit of a strange one this.

Playing about with 9.1's rule editor over Citrix and came across an unusual and incredibly annoying bug. The editor seems to convert a "£" symbol into a "?" symbol. I can't get it to put a £ symbol into the editor however I try - copy / paste from notepad, etc.

Only way of getting round it I can see is to call the CHAR function but this seems ridiculous.

Given I've not played with 9.1's rule editor much yet and can't find any ref to it on a search, I'm trying to pin this down to a TM1 or Citrix issue and wondered if anyone had come across this?

TIA

[jim wood]

I encountered this one. You have to revert your rules editor back to the basic editor. It's a known bug with the editor.

[stephen waters]

The editor seems to convert a "£" symbol into a "?" symbol. I can't get it to put a £ symbol into the editor however I try - copy / paste from notepad, etc.

I think this is a "feature" not a bug since the "Advanced" rules editor does not support the extended character set including £ sign.

Along with other iritations this is why we don't really use it and I think IBM Cognos have come to a similar conclusion since it is disabled by default in currrent installation of versions 9.4 and 9.5 ( not sure about 9.1)

This is a shame because it has some nice layout and colouring features.

[garry cook]

Thanks Jim - sadly I suspected that may be the case.

I really wanted to play with that nice shiny rule editor too

Ah well, thanks for confirming. Guess it's back to notepad sytle rules then as I can't be bothered calling CHAR functions everywhere.

[garry cook]

And thanks too Steve.

Super speedy response btw - you guys sitting hitting F5 constantly or just lucky with the timing?

[jim wood]

I think this is a "feature" not a bug since the "Advanced" rules editor does not support the extended character set including £ sign.

Apologies, I forgot that TM1 is the most feature rich bit of kit out there!!

[ParisHilton]

I'm curious , why would you need '£' in a rule?

[tomok]

I'm curious , why would you need '£' in a rule?

The same reason you would need any other character, if you used it in either the name of a cube, dimension, dimension element, or attribute.

[jim wood]

We have it in a dimension called scale. It has 2 elements £0 and £000.

You could do this with a consolidation instead of a rule - weight the £000 with 0.001. If this rule is the only mention of £ then this might allow you to go back to the shiny editor.

Martin

[ParisHilton]

ah, that makes sense.

I was thinking of it in terms of a measure.

[Alan Kirk]

Thanks Jim - sadly I suspected that may be the case.

I really wanted to play with that nice shiny rule editor too

Ah well, thanks for confirming. Guess it's back to notepad sytle rules then as I can't be bothered calling CHAR functions everywhere.

Well... either that or using those format-rich .xru files...

[stephen waters]

Hi Alan,
Surprised to see you posting, I thought you would be off watching the cricket

[Alan Kirk]

Hi Alan,
Surprised to see you posting, I thought you would be off watching the cricket

Hey, I'm quite happy for you (Jim, the other Steves, John) to indulge in your Anglophile celebrations since (a) As I understand it, it has been a while!, (b) The last time I paid attention to a cricket score Greg Chappell was still the captain and frankly, I have no idea who won what or when except that apparently England won the series and (c) The last time I paid attention to anyone (other than me) playing any sport, Belinda Snell was still captain of the Sydney Flames and saying "Oh well, there's always next year. Of course, I'm getting sick of saying that every year..."

[jim wood]

Hey, I'm quite happy for you (Jim, the other Steves, John) to indulge in your Anglophile celebrations since (a) As I understand it, it has been a while!, (b) The last time I paid attention to a cricket score Greg Chappell was still the captain and frankly, I have no idea who won what or when except that apparently England won the series and (c) The last time I paid attention to anyone (other than me) playing any sport, Belinda Snell was still captain of the Sydney Flames and saying "Oh well, there's always next year. Of course, I'm getting sick of saying that every year..."

I'm glad your happy for us as we are happy for us as well. There is nothing better than watching Ricky Ponting squirm on telly.

[Alan Kirk]

Hey, I'm quite happy for you (Jim, the other Steves, John) to indulge in your Anglophile celebrations since (a) As I understand it, it has been a while!, (b) The last time I paid attention to a cricket score Greg Chappell was still the captain and frankly, I have no idea who won what or when except that apparently England won the series and (c) The last time I paid attention to anyone (other than me) playing any sport, Belinda Snell was still captain of the Sydney Flames and saying "Oh well, there's always next year. Of course, I'm getting sick of saying that every year..."

I'm glad your happy for us as we are happy for us as well. There is nothing better than watching Ricky Ponting squirm on telly.

If you believe that then clearly, you've never seen Belinda Snell sink a three point throw when a great deal of lunging and stretching was involved.

[jim wood]

Who is Belinda Snell??? Should I google her in work or wait until I get home??

[garry cook]

by jim wood » Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:42 pm

garry cook wrote:
We have it in a dimension called scale. It has 2 elements £0 and £000.


You could do this with a consolidation instead of a rule - weight the £000 with 0.001. If this rule is the only mention of £ then this might allow you to go back to the shiny editor.

Martin

Impostor-tastic! I didn't write that (indeed, the problem I'm dealing with isn't even mine and refers to an element name with £ in it rather than GBP - yuck), Jim's signed off as Martin and my account had exceeded no of logon attempts when I went to reply to this forum when I've had no sign on issues recently

I'm suspicious...

PS I hate cricket, don't really like the English and I still find the cricket funny

PPS Belinda Snell??? You've got weird tastes dude

[jim wood]

I didn't write the bit about the consolidations either. I'm guessing the database has gone a bit funny.

[Alan Kirk]

I didn't write the bit about the consolidations either. I'm guessing the database has gone a bit funny.

Something a bit more prosaic, I'm afraid; the Moderator log shows that Martin inadvertently edited your post. I'd guess that he hit the [Edit] button when he meant to hit the Quote button. (This is the down side to the "one ring" that is Admin rights; I've done the same thing myself in the past, then muttered and swore as I reconstructed the original post from the e-mail copies.)

Impostor-tastic! I didn't write that (indeed, the problem I'm dealing with isn't even mine and refers to an element name with £ in it rather than GBP - yuck), Jim's signed off as Martin and my account had exceeded no of logon attempts when I went to reply to this forum when I've had no sign on issues recently

I'm suspicious...

I smell cookies! Specifically, I've been having that a bit myself recently but I know why it is; I recently had to log into the Forum on a "foreign" computer so I changed my password afterwards. The cookies on my own computers kept trying to log me in with the old password. The notebook just did it when I went to log into the Administrator Control Panel (for which it apparently keeps a separate login record). Might be time to do a cookie purge on your browser if the password doesn't "stick".

PPS Belinda Snell??? You've got weird tastes dude

She's hot! Athletic, tall, long, dark hair, did I mention athletic? The only downside is that she doesn't like flying. Hey, I like what I like!

(Although it may be politic to mention that rather shorter with long dark hair is working for me at the moment. I'm not as unconcerned as Jim is about whether my posts are looked up by significant others. )

[Martin Ryan]

Ah right, I wondered why there was no red star on the icon of this post on the listings page.

I did indeed make that post about weightings. Sorry Jim. And thanks for looking at the logs Alan, I immediately assumed a screwy database too.