Windows 7, TM1 Perspectives and Ctrl+Alt+Del
-
- Posts: 14
- Joined: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:49 am
- OLAP Product: TM1
- Version: 9.1.3. 9.5.2. 10.1.1
- Excel Version: 2003. 2010
Windows 7, TM1 Perspectives and Ctrl+Alt+Del
I have just had my work laptop "upgraded" and am now running Windows 7 - previously XP - and have noticed something strange when locking the screen.
If my active window is TM1 Perspectives and I hit Ctrl+Alt+Del (so I can then select lock the screen), it actually sends a Delete command to TM1 prior to bringing up the lock screen/task manager etc menu. When I then unlock the screen I have been faced with 2 "Do You Want to delete the cube Yes, No , Cancel" dialogs plus I tried to delete the whole server seemingly!!!
This didn't happen previously under XP and is slightly dangerous if you have any admin rights to whatever you have highlighted in Perspectives!!
If I am in any other application I don't see the same thing happen and the lock screen/task manager menu comes up as expected
I'm on Windows 7 Enterprise SP1 and this happens with TM1 versions 9.1.3 and 9.5.2.
We have experienced the same on all Windows 7 laptops I've tried so far (admittedly only 3) and I haven't been able to find a Windows 7 workstation to try it on yet.
Has anyone else experienced the same or is it a something peculiar to our company machines and is there any workaround (other than Windows key+L to lock the screen)
EDIT - Forgot to add I access TM1 Perspectives via Citrix but we do not see the same happening in Excel that runs the Perspectives add-in
If my active window is TM1 Perspectives and I hit Ctrl+Alt+Del (so I can then select lock the screen), it actually sends a Delete command to TM1 prior to bringing up the lock screen/task manager etc menu. When I then unlock the screen I have been faced with 2 "Do You Want to delete the cube Yes, No , Cancel" dialogs plus I tried to delete the whole server seemingly!!!
This didn't happen previously under XP and is slightly dangerous if you have any admin rights to whatever you have highlighted in Perspectives!!
If I am in any other application I don't see the same thing happen and the lock screen/task manager menu comes up as expected
I'm on Windows 7 Enterprise SP1 and this happens with TM1 versions 9.1.3 and 9.5.2.
We have experienced the same on all Windows 7 laptops I've tried so far (admittedly only 3) and I haven't been able to find a Windows 7 workstation to try it on yet.
Has anyone else experienced the same or is it a something peculiar to our company machines and is there any workaround (other than Windows key+L to lock the screen)
EDIT - Forgot to add I access TM1 Perspectives via Citrix but we do not see the same happening in Excel that runs the Perspectives add-in
-
- MVP
- Posts: 170
- Joined: Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:07 pm
- OLAP Product: TM1
- Version: [2.x ...] 11.x / PAL 2.0.9
- Excel Version: Excel 2013-2016
- Location: Germany
Re: Windows 7, TM1 Perspectives and Ctrl+Alt+Del
I see the same behaviour, Perspectives 9.5.2 Win7 (no Citrix). I guess, I never tried this before.
-
- MVP
- Posts: 3702
- Joined: Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:14 am
- OLAP Product: TableManager1
- Version: PA 2.0.x
- Excel Version: Office 365
- Location: Switzerland
Re: Windows 7, TM1 Perspectives and Ctrl+Alt+Del
Use Windows + L to lock your workstation. Its faster and you won't have the quirk.
-
- Site Admin
- Posts: 6647
- Joined: Sun May 11, 2008 2:30 am
- OLAP Product: TM1
- Version: PA2.0.9.18 Classic NO PAW!
- Excel Version: 2013 and Office 365
- Location: Sydney, Australia
- Contact:
Re: Windows 7, TM1 Perspectives and Ctrl+Alt+Del
I'm not encountering it on a Compaq notebook running Windows 7 Ultimate and 10.1.1. (Don't have a Win 7 laptop / notebook with any of the earlier versions to test.) Though (a) as others have suggested I normally use Windows + [L] to lock anyway and (b) when I do use the [Ctrl] + [Alt] + [Delete] combo I actually do it in that order; my left hand has already pressed [Ctrl]+[Alt] before my right hand hits [Del]. If you're trying to hit all three simultaneously I'm wondering if the [Del] could actually be sneaking through first. (Though if that's all it is it's curious that Gabor is reporting the same behaviour.)job67 wrote:I have just had my work laptop "upgraded" and am now running Windows 7 - previously XP - and have noticed something strange when locking the screen.
If my active window is TM1 Perspectives and I hit Ctrl+Alt+Del (so I can then select lock the screen), it actually sends a Delete command to TM1 prior to bringing up the lock screen/task manager etc menu. When I then unlock the screen I have been faced with 2 "Do You Want to delete the cube Yes, No , Cancel" dialogs plus I tried to delete the whole server seemingly!!!
"To them, equipment failure is terrifying. To me, it’s 'Tuesday.' "
-----------
Before posting, please check the documentation, the FAQ, the Search function and FOR THE LOVE OF GLUB the Request Guidelines.
-----------
Before posting, please check the documentation, the FAQ, the Search function and FOR THE LOVE OF GLUB the Request Guidelines.
-
- Posts: 14
- Joined: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:49 am
- OLAP Product: TM1
- Version: 9.1.3. 9.5.2. 10.1.1
- Excel Version: 2003. 2010
Re: Windows 7, TM1 Perspectives and Ctrl+Alt+Del
Thought about that and it happens if I hold down Ctrl + Alt and then press Delete.Alan Kirk wrote:If you're trying to hit all three simultaneously I'm wondering if the [Del] could actually be sneaking through first. (Though if that's all it is it's curious that Gabor is reporting the same behaviour.)
-
- Posts: 32
- Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:45 pm
- OLAP Product: Cognos TM1
- Version: 10.2.2
- Excel Version: 365
Re: Windows 7, TM1 Perspectives and Ctrl+Alt+Del
HP Elitebook 8440p Windows 7 x64, TM1 10 Architect and Perspectives.
Same problem here.
I normally use [Win + L] to lock though.
Same problem here.
I normally use [Win + L] to lock though.
-
- Site Admin
- Posts: 6647
- Joined: Sun May 11, 2008 2:30 am
- OLAP Product: TM1
- Version: PA2.0.9.18 Classic NO PAW!
- Excel Version: 2013 and Office 365
- Location: Sydney, Australia
- Contact:
Re: Windows 7, TM1 Perspectives and Ctrl+Alt+Del
That's interesting; you're seeing it on 10 and I'm not (though I'm 10.1.1) BUT I'm now wondering if perhaps it's the x64 thing that makes a difference; that it's a Windows issue rather than a specifically TM1 issue. Most of the previous posts haven't said which incarnation of Win 7 they're using. Mine's still 32 bit.aking wrote:HP Elitebook 8440p Windows 7 x64, TM1 10 Architect and Perspectives.
Same problem here.
I normally use [Win + L] to lock though.
"To them, equipment failure is terrifying. To me, it’s 'Tuesday.' "
-----------
Before posting, please check the documentation, the FAQ, the Search function and FOR THE LOVE OF GLUB the Request Guidelines.
-----------
Before posting, please check the documentation, the FAQ, the Search function and FOR THE LOVE OF GLUB the Request Guidelines.
- Harvey
- Community Contributor
- Posts: 236
- Joined: Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:43 am
- OLAP Product: PA, TM1, CX, Palo
- Version: TM1 8.3 onwards
- Excel Version: 2003 onwards
- Contact:
Re: Windows 7, TM1 Perspectives and Ctrl+Alt+Del
I noticed this bug back in version 9. Such a simple, yet highly dangerous little quirk!
I use Windows-L to lock my screen, so don't see it often.
I use Windows-L to lock my screen, so don't see it often.
Take your TM1 experience to the next level - TM1Innovators.net
-
- Posts: 14
- Joined: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:49 am
- OLAP Product: TM1
- Version: 9.1.3. 9.5.2. 10.1.1
- Excel Version: 2003. 2010
Re: Windows 7, TM1 Perspectives and Ctrl+Alt+Del
My laptop is running Win 7 32 bit.Alan Kirk wrote: That's interesting; you're seeing it on 10 and I'm not (though I'm 10.1.1) BUT I'm now wondering if perhaps it's the x64 thing that makes a difference; that it's a Windows issue rather than a specifically TM1 issue. Most of the previous posts haven't said which incarnation of Win 7 they're using. Mine's still 32 bit.
-
- Site Admin
- Posts: 6647
- Joined: Sun May 11, 2008 2:30 am
- OLAP Product: TM1
- Version: PA2.0.9.18 Classic NO PAW!
- Excel Version: 2013 and Office 365
- Location: Sydney, Australia
- Contact:
Re: Windows 7, TM1 Perspectives and Ctrl+Alt+Del
So much for that theory, though it's interesting that while it's not a problem on my 32 bit notebook I am getting it on a Win 7 x64 desktop with 9.5.2 on board.job67 wrote:My laptop is running Win 7 32 bit.Alan Kirk wrote: That's interesting; you're seeing it on 10 and I'm not (though I'm 10.1.1) BUT I'm now wondering if perhaps it's the x64 thing that makes a difference; that it's a Windows issue rather than a specifically TM1 issue. Most of the previous posts haven't said which incarnation of Win 7 they're using. Mine's still 32 bit.
"To them, equipment failure is terrifying. To me, it’s 'Tuesday.' "
-----------
Before posting, please check the documentation, the FAQ, the Search function and FOR THE LOVE OF GLUB the Request Guidelines.
-----------
Before posting, please check the documentation, the FAQ, the Search function and FOR THE LOVE OF GLUB the Request Guidelines.